Frustrated with coders

In the development world, it’s normally split between four areas:

1. Management
2. Marketing
3. Coders
4. Designers

Management handles the whipping. They push people to their limits, trying to squeeze as much out of the teams as they could, while maintain as little expenses as they could, so they could pocket more in the end.

Marketing think they are fantastically capable people who believe because they dabbled in Photoshop 1.0, they suddenly become equally as capable in the actual design of applications. They think that so long as the thing looks pretty, then everything is good.

Most coders I’ve met over the years suck consistently with one thing: user interface. They just suck really badly for some reason. In their ‘coding mentality’, no matter how elite they are in the way they program code, no matter how clean and clear cut it is, for some uncanny reason, their UI’s are just crap. It’s as if what could have been spaghetti code transmogrifies itself into everything but the code itself. Does it really make sense that the internal template builder HAVE TO BE split up into six different things to handle six different objects for the UI? Do you seriously need one template for the title, the text, the rating block, the drop down, the button and form field? Seriously? Why?!?! Just create one editor that allows us to edit CSS + template. Split templates per type of section, rather than per type of object, instead of having zillions of different templates for zillions of different objects!

Designers are the best at UI generally. I’m talking about the people who specialize in application design, who actually knows what works and what confuses the geebus nuts out of people. I love designing UI’s. Regardless if it’s for web, standalone desktop, kiosk or even static printed items, I love UI/layout. I constantly observe things around me in magazines, games, websites, car dashboards, posters, architect, etc. I just automatically see good UI/layout design. The unfortunate fact is the sometimes I design UI/layout and the client wants something completely different and worst yet, the coders want something different.

In the last 15 years I’ve been in the industry, the majority of coders I’ve worked with were nightmares. It’s like they are stuck in their dumb ass ways and they refuse to see the obvious convoluted UI/layouts they strongly adhere to.

I spent the last 7 hours trying to find a different WordPress plugin that I can use to multi-rate posts, just to go back to the only one in the free market that does what I seek. I won’t name the plugin here, but I will say this: it is so loaded with crap and so loaded with bad UI/layout design, that I ended up spending a good portion of that 7 hours just trying to figure out the instructions AND the damn layout. Sure, it’s a free app, but there is nothing in that app that encourages me to donate to their project. I could see it as useful, but at this rate, I want to build a giant rubber band shooting machine, so I can shoot giant rubber bands at the people who built this crap ass app.

I need to find a coder that actually knows coding AND WORKS WITH ME, instead of against me! Don’t worry Andy, this doesn’t include you. Andy is actually one of the better coders out there.

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2014-02-04 11:26 pm

I enjoyed reading this particular article as it gave me a perspective of what other designers think about the development process. I have around 15 years commercial experience of which 2 was spent on design and the rest on programming.  I can appreciate your points about the reluctance that some programmers may exhibit as whenever design choices are made we, or at least myself, instantly visualise the required code changes required. Sometimes, due to how the platform was originally developed (like legacy applications), the changes may seem easy at first glance but actually a nightmare to code.  Do we just… Read more »

2014-02-05 7:19 pm

I think many programmers should realize that the applications they help develop are part of a larger ideal. If applications were solely built for the benefit for the programers themselves, then whatever. Alas, the applications are built for people who normally don’t program. With that said, I believe it’s actually still doable on both fronts. On one hand, the designer creates the UI that looks clean and is usable. On the other hand, the coder creates a series of code that works with that UI. Sounds obvious right? Well here lies the compromising factor: – create a modular system where… Read more »

2014-02-06 9:01 am

I’ve been a project manager for a development team for several years earlier in my career and understand the dynamics. I think many programmers should realize that the applications they help develop are part of a larger ideal. The green or less experienced programmers that are just starting out won’t really realise the importance of this until later on and in some cases some never learn. I think some coders are concerned about deadlines or failing to produce so sacrifice quality by taking the shortest path to making something work. Ultimately that makes life harder down the road. When you… Read more »

Reply to  Ghostwheel
2014-02-13 7:56 pm

Yes exactly. I’m not a programmer, but I’ve done web sites since the mid 1990’s and I remember just how retarded my HTML ‘programming’ was up until the mid-late 2000’s. Today, I see the way the programmers I work with code things and I like the progression from ‘somewhat usable’ to ‘quite usable’. Veteran programmers like yourself need to sigh a lot and make code work for the long term goals, while the rest of them just sit around and ‘do the job they were hired to do’ without much thought into the long term goals.

Brando Marlo
2014-03-23 1:16 am

You don’t have to worry about me! I work in marketing but I have no clue in graphic design orprogramming! Our department deals with image and branding but we reportto the game woman as the designers. She’s thecreative director and also themarketing director.